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Tweak says, "IM soooo cold...finally"

thete1 (thete1) wrote,
@ 2008-08-04 12:40:00

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The old earth spins
The old earth spins
by Te
August 1, 2008

Disclaimers: No one and nothing here is mine.

Spoilers/Timeline: AU-ized references to older storylines. Meant to take place not long before Tim's fifteenth birthday.

Summary: Tim pwns, Jason copes, and Bruce has a very good day.

Ratings Note/Warnings: Sexual content which does and does not dovetail neatly with the content some readers may find to be disturbing.

Author's Note: Third in The Young and the Battish series, starting a few weeks after the end of "A wondrous mirror." Will *not* make sense without the others.

Acknowledgments: To Pixie, Mildred, and Jack for audiencing, encouragement, hand-holding, and tireless efforts to make me keep writing in a language comprehensible to more than just the voices in my head.

Story goes *here*.

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	teaotter 2008-08-05 12:25 pm UTC (link)
	I've only just started -- I'll leave something more coherent later, when I've actually had a chance to read the whole thing, but -- squee! This Tim and Jason are so cute together, I am so glad you wrote more of them! (Reply to this) (Thread)

teaotter
2008-08-19 09:41 pm UTC (link)

Now that I've had a chance to read this all through, I wanted to come back and tell you -- it's wonderful!

If this isn't the least fucked-up version of the Batfamily I've read, it's definitely in the top three. They manage to handle a lot of potentially dangerous emotional space without shutting each other down or out very much at all -- certainly a new high score on that level. They're *open* with each other in a way I'm not used to seeing, and it worked very well for me.

I am intensely fond of Tim here, and her issues, which manage to be both classically Tim *and* classically trans at the same time. And I love her relationship with Barbara.

I was surprised that the resolution of Jason's issues about intergenerational sex were so... hmm, I'm failing to find a decent word. Something like 'non-profound'? Despite the fact that "I'll just refuse to let my issues drive me off until hopefully I figure out a way around them" is the only solution I've seen in real life, I was somehow expecting something much more... dramatic? I'm not sure that I would have actually *preferred* anything different, mind you. Or even what it would have been. This story flows together well enough that I have a hard time seeing it having gone any other way.

And I must add that I am *glad* that they all ended up in bed (and elsewhere) together, because OMG those three were melting my screen. Bruce's first kiss with Jason, followed by the one with Tim -- so much *heat* and *flailing* in the very best ways. Um. The pommel horse. Yes.

So. You make me UTTERLY INCOHERENT with GLEE. I wanted you to know.

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thete1
2008-11-06 12:51 am UTC (link)

Now that I've had a chance to read this all through, I wanted to come back and tell you -- it's wonderful!

\o/

If this isn't the least fucked-up version of the Batfamily I've read, it's definitely in the top three. They manage to handle a lot of potentially dangerous emotional space without shutting each other down or out very much at all -- certainly a new high score on that level. They're *open* with each other in a way I'm not used to seeing, and it worked very well for me.

Batgirl makes things *better*. *laughs* Okay, so I'm simplifying *and* making shit up, but what else is fanfic *for*? Seriously, the Batverse was an infinitely happier place before Babs got shot, and that's a thought I find just a little too compelling -- even though I love Oracle more than I loved Babs' Batgirl. Good thing there's a Tim around! *laughs*

I am intensely fond of Tim here, and her issues, which manage to be both classically Tim *and* classically trans at the same time. And I love her relationship with Barbara.

*purrrr* I'm so glad that *worked*. It was deeply *weird* to write Tim that way -- not least because it *did* work in my head.

I was surprised that the resolution of Jason's issues about intergenerational sex were so... hmm, I'm failing to find a decent word. Something like 'non-profound'? Despite the fact that "I'll just refuse to let my issues drive me off until hopefully I figure out a way around them" is the only solution I've seen in real life, I was somehow expecting something much more... dramatic?

Heh. You're not the only one who was surprised -- trust me. I really don't know *why* it worked that way. I mean, as soon as I finished the previous story, I knew how they'd manage to talk themselves into the threesome, but I still didn't expect it to *go* that way. *flails around* Everything's better with Batgirl? Maybe? *laughs*

And I must add that I am *glad* that they all ended up in bed (and elsewhere) together, because OMG those three were melting my screen. Bruce's first kiss with Jason, followed by the one with Tim -- so much *heat* and *flailing* in the very best ways. Um. The pommel horse. Yes.

So. You make me UTTERLY INCOHERENT with GLEE. I wanted you to know.

Yayy! *ahahaha* I must admit, those two first kisses made my eyes cross a bit while I was writing them, because... buh. Bruce. Guh. Yes, well.

Bruce should always have a pile of people on top of him. They don't *have* to be his children, too, but... it seems to help!

Thanks for the great feedback! *snugs*

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	cmshaw 2008-08-06 11:04 pm UTC (link)
	how did i MISS THIS? i'd been waiting! eep! downloads! grin hi! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	cmshaw 2008-08-08 11:29 am UTC (link)
	wow. uh, WOW. that was impressively filthy. and sweet. and filthy. pommel horse.... wanders around in a happy daze (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

	thete1 2008-11-06 12:53 am UTC (link)
	wow. uh, WOW. that was impressively filthy. and sweet. and filthy. True Love means it can be incredibly dirty. nods sagely And I must say -- your sadness for Bruce after the prior story? Was part of what inspired me to write this one, as opposed to letting it just bounce around my brain. So -- thanks. :D (Reply to this) (Parent)

shadowvalkyrie
2008-08-07 06:51 am UTC (link)

Oh, Teeeeeeeeee!!!

I finished reading last night (Yes, I did cancel my social life and miss out on a lot of sleep and meals, why do you ask? In any case: SO worth it!) and I thought I'd be coherent enough for a proper review that quotes no more than half the story back at you today, but... *squees lots and abuses exclamation marks instead*

First of all: damn, that was heartbreaking. I cried in so many places that - even hours later - strange old ladies in the supermarket asked if I was okay. (I refrained from giving a true explanation, obviously. *ggg*) I'm not sure the phrase "emotional porn" conveys it wholly, but somehow the talking was no less satisfying than all the sweet, hot, perfect sex.

My favourite part was the talk Jason and Bruce had while Tim was talking to Barbara. Just... waterfalls, let me tell you. (Though the mutual profiling Bruce and Tim had going before that was sheer genius as well: uncomfortable, but in a really sexy way.)
All the many different things that come up between Bruce and Jason there and later... Dick and Clark and Harvey (and just recently I said that Bruce/Havey clashing with Bruce/Jason was an interesting dynmic and I'd like to see it written more often, but somehow you did it better in a paragraph than anyone else could in a whole story).
And Babs wins so hard, over and over with everything she says and how she keeps Tim from jumping into self-destruct mode.

And that's when Jason realizes that he's sitting here actually *thinking* about it, wishing he had more fucking *data* so he'll know what he's doing when he crawls into Bruce's bed and... and. He'd really like to know when he'd made *that* fucking decision.

Ultimate moment of Jason adorableness right there. I can see his "WTF, brain?" face so well.

"Okay, so no threesomes with Babs. It'll be tough, but I think I can let go of that fantasy without crying in my cereal too much."
"Threesome with -- and you don't even *eat* cereal. You. I." Tim's blinking at him and making kind of a fish-face.
Jason grins and waggles his eyebrows.
"You might as well suggest a -- oh. Oh," she says and the fish-face is completely gone, leaving something that looks like a fucked-up blend of fear and *fascination* on her face.
"Baby...?"
"You want... all of us. The two of us with *Bruce*."

I had hoped from the start that this would be happening at some point and was therefore squeeing even louder than before from that moment on.

And, yeah, watch me not reread the sex scenes for favourite lines right now because I actually have stuff to do today... Just hot. Brainmeltingly so.

And Tim and Jason being cute together and discussing Dick... and...

"Forgive me, Jason, but experience suggests that leaving you *here* would be the best way to avoid random sexual experiences with multiple partners."

I wouldn't bet on it. It's the Titans, after all. ":-D

Then Tim going all toppy and growly was sexy as hell. It may be a little different from their usual configuration, but Bruce needs to be tied up a lot more often! (Why can't they do it in the comics once in a while? It would make such a lovely icon!) And after they'd all torn each other and themselves apart so thoroughly, nothing gentler would have worked.
It does, however, break my brain a little that they even consider going on patrol after that, instead of collapsing in a heap with smiles that would make the Joker envious on their faces, ~~like normal people~~.

I could babble on for hours, but it all boils down to: thank you for writing and thank you for sharing!!!

And just out of general curiosity (not wibbling here, or anything, noooo): will there be another part? I mean, Batgirl meeting the Titans, and Bruce and Jason all on their lonesome (well, plus their numerous issues) in the meantime, with no Tim to mediate... *eyebrow waggle* You know you want to!

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megami
2008-08-11 04:25 pm UTC (link)

Goodness! This took me days to read. Darned RL! I was getting pretty convinced that there was going to be a sad ending. First I was sure that Jason was going to die, somewhat like in canon, and then I was absolutely certain that Tim would die, leaving Jason and Bruce totally unable to cope with just each other. But Te once again has come through and given our Trio a nice, sweet, happy relationship, so now I can re-read the whole story (as I always do) in that light. It'll be like reading a whole new story, which will keep me busy until Te writes something new.

Meanwhile, I just wanted to say that I, like Shadowvalkyrie, would really really really love to see this: Batgirl meeting the Titans, and Bruce and Jason all on their lonesome.

What do you say, Te? Please?

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	shadowvalkyrie 2008-08-13 12:14 pm UTC (link)
	so now I can re-read the whole story (as I always do) in that light. It'll be like reading a whole new story, which will keep me busy until Te writes something new "X-D I'm glad I'm not the only one doing constant rereads! The almost-nightly Te-chapter is my guarantee of going to bed happily, insead of with the day's troubles on my mind. (Reply to this) (Parent) (Thread)

megami
2008-08-15 11:23 pm UTC (link)

Me too! Lucky for me, there are still quite a few Te stories that I haven't even read yet! I seem to alternate between re-reading stories that I have already read and reading new (to me) stories. That way I can stretch out the unread ones longer. It might take years to get through them all this way, especially if Te keeps writing ridiculously long stories.

They're like a drug. I need my daily fix or I go a little crazy.

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	shadowvalkyrie 2008-08-16 07:06 am UTC (link)
	nods Exactly! Sadly, I don't think I have any left that I haven't read. sadface But well, Te usually is fast with writing, so I'm lucky to get a new fix ever so often anyway. ":-D (Reply to this) (Parent)

thete1
2008-11-06 02:02 am UTC (link)

I was getting pretty convinced that there was going to be a sad ending. First I was sure that Jason was going to die, somewhat like in canon, and then I was absolutely certain that Tim would die, leaving Jason and Bruce totally unable to cope with just each other. But Te once again has come through and given our Trio a nice, sweet, happy relationship, so now I can re-read the whole story (as I always do) in that light. It'll be like reading a whole new story, which will keep me busy until Te writes something new.

*laughs* Aww! I could've told you there'd be a happy ending. *laughs more* I don't know. I'm sure I'll write some more sad things at some point, but at the moment I'm invested in all-happy, all-the-time. Mary had a Jason icon with the quote on it... hmmm... something like "the secret to a happy ending is knowing when to stop writing." For me, it's more like "the secret to a happy ending is to keep writing until they damned well *get* there." Which, well. *eyes number of 100,000+ word stories*

Yes, *anyway*.

*snugs you*

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thete1
2008-11-06 01:58 am UTC (link)

Oh, Teeeeeeeeee!!!

Yeeessss? :D

First of all: damn, that was heartbreaking. I cried in so many places that - even hours later - strange old ladies in the supermarket asked if I was okay. (I refrained from giving a true explanation, obviously. *ggg*) I'm not sure the phrase "emotional porn" conveys it wholly, but somehow the talking was no less satisfying than all the sweet, hot, perfect sex.

Emo-porn IS porn. *siiigh* Sometimes a girl just needs to indulge herself -- or her hormones find ways to get back at her. :D

My favourite part was the talk Jason and Bruce had while Tim was talking to Barbara. Just... waterfalls, let me tell you. (Though the mutual profiling Bruce and Tim had going before that was sheer genius as well: uncomfortable, but in a really sexy way.)

*siiigh* In a lot of ways, I think Bruce couldn't talk to anyone the way he could talk to Jason. Which is not to say that Jason was always *ready* for that degree of emotional honesty, but that Bruce *could* open up for Jason -- and could rarely stop himself from doing it. Of course, I believe that the honesty Bruce and Tim can find with each other is incredibly deep... but it's also a lot more harsh, even when they're both reasonably happy with each other.

All the many different things that come up between Bruce and Jason there and later... Dick and Clark and Harvey (and just recently I said that Bruce/Havey clashing with Bruce/Jason was an interesting dynmic and I'd like to see it written more often, but somehow you did it better in a paragraph than anyone else could in a whole story).

*hee* There's a *part* of a sequel I have in mind for A way so familiar that most assuredly plays with the Jason=Harvey idea a little, because... yeah, I really think that, in some ways, Jason is/was/can be a Harvey Bruce can *be* completely honest with.

And Babs wins so hard, over and over with everything she says and how she keeps Tim from jumping into self-destruct mode.

She has a daughter/little sister/mentee! Of course she's going to be awesome. :D

Ultimate moment of Jason adorableness right there. I can see his "WTF, brain?" face so well.

*mee hee* I kinda love when I can make Jason make that face.

And, yeah, watch me not reread the sex scenes for favourite lines right now because I actually have stuff to do today... Just hot. Brainmeltingly so.

*purr*

I wouldn't bet on it. It's the Titans, after all. ":-D

I just like the image of Tim beating off Titans with her Batpurse. Okay, so she doesn't actually have a Batpurse. Still!

Then Tim going all toppy and growly was sexy as hell. It may be a little different from their usual configuration, but Bruce needs to be tied up a lot more often! (Why can't they do it in the comics once in a while? It would make such a lovely icon!) And after they'd all torn each other and themselves apart so thoroughly, nothing gentler would have worked.
It does, however, break my brain a little that they even consider going on patrol after that, instead of collapsing in a heap with smiles that would make the Joker envious on their faces, like normal people.

*laughs* Sometimes? I write for the kinks of my pre-readers/audience members rather than my own. Toppy!Tim = *SO* not my kink, but the story went that way (probably BECAUSE of the people reading), and so I let it happen. It does, in fact, *work*, but... *shakes head at self*

I could babble on for hours, but it all boils down to: thank you for writing and thank you for sharing!!!

:D :D :D You're *very* welcome.

And just out of general curiosity (not wibbling here, or anything, noooo): will there be another part? I mean, Batgirl meeting the Titans, and Bruce and Jason all on their lonesome (well, plus their numerous issues) in the meantime, with no Tim to mediate... *eyebrow waggle* You know you want to!

I've considered it, but thus far I have no drive to actually write it. We'll see what happens the next time I get a vicious case of chemically-induced PMS. ;-)

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shadowvalkyrie
2008-11-06 07:19 am UTC (link)

*siiigh* In a lot of ways, I think Bruce couldn't talk to anyone the way he could talk to Jason. Which is not to say that Jason was always *ready* for that degree of emotional honesty, but that Bruce *could* open up for Jason -- and could rarely stop himself from doing it.

Which is one of the reasons I'm always torn between "OMG, OTP!" and "Shit, that's wrong!" with these two.

Of course, I believe that the honesty Bruce and Tim can find with each other is incredibly deep... but it's also a lot more harsh, even when they're both reasonably happy with each other.

Because they are more inclined to see the weaknesses and bad sides in each other, as those are the same ones they hate in themselves. Bruce and Jason are different enough in some ways that Bruce can trust him more. If Tim threw Garzonas off that balcony? Bruce would have dragged him to Gordon that same instant. But he wanted to believe in Jason's innocence. On the other hand, maybe it's the old Bruce-changed-after-Jason's death thing. Or a bit of both.

I just like the image of Tim beating off Titans with her Batpurse. Okay, so she doesn't actually have a Batpurse. Still!

Ahahahaha! well, you could give her one... And now that you've put the image out there, you have to write it... *ggg*

*hee* There's a *part* of a sequel I have in mind for A way so familiar that most assuredly plays with the Jason=Harvey idea a little, because... yeah, I really think that, in some ways, Jason is/was/can be a Harvey Bruce can *be* completely honest with.

Ooh, shiny! *wibbles*

*laughs* Sometimes? I write for the kinks of my pre-readers/audience members rather than my own.

Really? It doesn't show! (Only perhaps in that you write things you prefer more often.)

Toppy!Tim = *SO* not my kink

Not usually mine either (because Tim is prettier all tied up and begging *evil grin*), but...

but the story went that way

...it's a Batgirl thing? That's my explanation, anyway. And Bruce just has something about him that makes me want to see him tied up and get a little hurt. *whistles innocently*

We'll see what happens the next time I get a vicious case of chemically-induced PMS. ;-)

I won't say I hope for that, because that would be mean, but I'll hold out for that sequel anyway...

Unrelated to that, I think I want a Batpurse, now. (Not that I even own a normal purse, but hey, a Batpurse would be cool.) And it's all your fault. *g*

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thete1
2008-11-07 10:24 pm UTC (link)

Because they are more inclined to see the weaknesses and bad sides in each other, as those are the same ones they hate in themselves. Bruce and Jason are different enough in some ways that Bruce can trust him more. If Tim threw Garzonas off that balcony? Bruce would have dragged him to Gordon that same instant. But he wanted to believe in Jason's innocence. On the other hand, maybe it's the old Bruce-changed-after-Jason's death thing. Or a bit of both.

I think it almost has to be both, because I really do believe that Bruce *was* more innocent before Jason died and Babs got shot. He wasn't a dilettante or anything like that, but the world was a much friendlier place. Fewer guns, fewer dead bodies, and a lot more *hope*. Bruce lost a large chunk of his *world* when he lost Jason, and it's only recently (I think) that he's started to be *able* to hope again. That said, if Tim *was* on that balcony when Garzonas went over, I think you're right that Bruce would assume the worst -- though Tim being Tim, Garzonas wouldn't have wound up dead, as opposed to the next thing to castrated.

Really? It doesn't show! (Only perhaps in that you write things you prefer more often.)

*laughs* I'm *invested* in keeping these people happy!

...it's a Batgirl thing? That's my explanation, anyway. And Bruce just has something about him that makes me want to see him tied up and get a little hurt. *whistles innocently*

*laughs* True, true. *thinks about Bruce struggling against his bonds. straining a little. frowning. sweating......*

Unrelated to that, I think I want a Batpurse, now. (Not that I even own a normal purse, but hey, a Batpurse would be cool.) And it's all your fault. *g*

*giggles*

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The Old Earth Spins
(Anonymous)
2008-10-30 09:55 pm UTC (link)

Oops, realized I should have posted this rather than e-mailing it, especially since I don't know whether your ISP is blocking mail from my current address (nonie squiggle q spot com)--apparently I sent too many change-of-address messages in a row, and some ISPs decided I was a spammer.

So, again:
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Ghods, Te, I thought the first two stories rocked the world. This one--this one just breaks the universe.

I've been in a quiet (huddled?) mood for a couple of months now, so I've been re-reading old stories I loved rather than daring to take on new ones. And now I'm catching up--

If that's the word. BEING caught up and, and devoured--

I read this last night, which turned into this morning because I couldn't stand to stop partway through to get any sleep. As if!

And, well, there was that extra couple of hours when I reread some major chunks of it again.

This morning, or rather afternoon, I've got a lot to do before this weekend's convention, but, um. I'm most of the way through this story a third time.

This just tears raw bleeding chunks out of me and makes me like it. I walk away bruised and then come back for more.

Desperate and crying for it.

Jesus CHRIST, woman!

--The NonieNothing, completely obliterated

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thete1
2008-11-06 02:07 am UTC (link)

Ghods, Te, I thought the first two stories rocked the world. This one--this one just breaks the universe.

*beam* I was wondering how you'd feel about this one. I actually thought you wouldn't like it because of the sweetness...

I've been in a quiet (huddled?) mood for a couple of months now

Heh, I understand that. I've been huddling for *quite* some time now...

If that's the word. BEING caught up and, and devoured--

\o/

This morning, or rather afternoon, I've got a lot to do before this weekend's convention, but, um. I'm most of the way through this story a third time.

This just tears raw bleeding chunks out of me and makes me like it. I walk away bruised and then come back for more.

Desperate and crying for it.

Jesus CHRIST, woman!

Oh, *purr* I'm so glad it worked! This whole series has a lot to do with the raw, bleeding heart of me -- and also PMS, which "helps." It's all about the emo, and so I feel... hmm. Both protective and protectively embarrassed by it. It's good to know that it can *move* people.

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